Last updated 20 Jan 2021

CONTROL LOOP CASE HISTORY 175

 

 

OVERSIZED VALVE DISRUPTS GOOD CONTROL

 

I was recently requested to advise why a certain flow control loop in a chemical plant was cycling badly and it was often run in manual as nobody seemed able to tune it to work properly.

When we tried it in automatic it immediately started cycling, so an open loop test was performed and a section of this is shown in Figure 1.  (Please note that to be able to see the figures clearly I have offset the PD (controller output signal) by +10%.  The PD is actually working just above 20%.)
It can be immediately seen from the test that the valve is really horribly oversized.  Measuring the process gain (movement range of PV divided by movement range of PD in percentages over the test) it shows the valve is 7 –8 times oversized.  This is terrible as oversized valves have the following problems associated with them:

1. Any valve problems such as hysteresis are magnified directly proportionally by the oversize factor and increase control variance by that amount.  Also any cycling that can occur on the loop due to any factor whether it is due to bad tuning or valve problems has the amplitude of the actual cycle as seen on the PD magnified by the oversize factor.  So if we had say a stick-slip cycle which would normally have an amplitude of about 2% with a properly sized valve, it would be about 10% with a 5 times oversized valve.

2. A very oversized valve also means that it will most likely be operating very close to seat.  Now a well known fact is that you should not operate control valves too close to seat.  There are several reasons for this.  One of the main ones is that it is possible on certain installations that the differential pressure across the valve is becoming very high, and often the actuator may not have enough force to deal with it.  This may cause cycling.

3. The speed of control response is largely due to the product of process gain and controller gain  Therefore if you have an oversized valve the process gain is much higher, and it means that for stability you have to reduce the gain in the controller.    Certain makes of controllers for some unknown reason have very limited low end gains and this may cause problems.

Now it is interesting when you look at the PV trace in Figure 1, that although the PD is completely steady between steps, the PV seems to be very “wavy” and moves around quite a bit when it should also be steady.

 

 

Fig.1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Figure 1

 

 

It might at first be thought that this might be due to some process problem, such as a fluctuation in the pressure behind the flow.  However the reason for this can be seen in Figure 2, in which the PD signal and the positioner’s valve position feedback signal are shown in a much magnified scale.  The positioner is doing a relatively good job in keeping the valve at the PD, but it can be seen that the valve is jumping around a little.  In actual fact when measuring this movement, the valve is only travelling around in a tiny range of less than 0.5%, but because of the huge oversize this results in the PV moving around by up to 4% which translates to quite big changes when translated into engineering units.

A possible reason for the valve movement is likely to be that the valve is working very low down and possibly the actuator has not got sufficient force to deal with the differential pressure across the valve.

Another undesirable effect of this valve movement is that when in automatic with reasonable tuning, it is very easy for the loop to go into a stick-slip cycle.

 

 

Fig 2.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Figure 2

 

Figure 3 is showing the open loop test with not only the PV and PD signals showing, but also with the valve position signal from the positioner included.  It can be clearly seen in this how the small amount of instability in the valve is badly affecting the PV.
 
I have not shown any closed loop tests, but the plant personnel had tried to tune the controller to prevent cycling.  The person responsible had tuned the controller with a PB (proportional band) of 1,000% and an I (integral) of 40 seconds/repeat.  The 40 seconds made it extremely slow and it was still tending to cycle around.  The correct tune for this process for a maximum of a single small overshoot on a SP step change would be PB =3000 % and I = 5 sec/repeat.  (PB is the reciprocal of gain multiplied by 100 in percentage).  However the controller needed a very tiny gain to avoid instability.  Unfortunately the particular make of controller only allows a maximum of 1000%.  However there is a special alternative controller module in the software that does allow one to reduce the gain considerably.  Unfortunately very few people really understand all the features available in their control systems, and one of my old and often repeated “gripes” about controller manufacturers, is that they don’t train their clients on the intricacies of their controllers, and often their manuals are written by people with a lot of academic knowledge, but very little understanding of practical control, so that the average user cannot understand what they are trying to say.  (I have given many courses to the engineers of suppliers of control systems in South Africa, and they have all said they had no idea what all the features and workings were in the control products they are responsible for).  A very sad situation.

I think this example has provided a very good insight into the dangers of using largely oversized valves, and into the importance of understanding practical control, and how your controllers work.

 

 

 

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Figure 3

 

My Conclusions of the Problems in the Loop shown in the last Case History 174.
Note: Figures mentioned below except for the last one, refer to the figures in Case History 174,.

Closed Loop Test (Figure 2):
1. Tuning is terribly slow.
2. The PV never seems to get to SP.
3. The valve is exhibiting bad sticking and slipping with the PD ramping under the I action and then finally the valve jumps way past SP.
4. On the reversal the valve is very sticky, and moves down in steps instead of smoothly.
5. The valve has fairly large hysteresis of probably about 5%, as indicated by the how far the PD has to reverse to get the valve moving in the opposite direction.

Open Loop Test (Figure 3):
1. The 5% hysteresis is confirmed on the two reversals.
2. The valve is about two and half times oversized, which is not good.

Tuning:
The original tuning was very slow.  The new tuning we put in worked extremely well, and managed to deal fairly well with the valve problems.  The figure entitled Long Term Trend in this article gives a good view of the performance before and after the exercise.

Did you manage to deduce the problems? 

 

Long Term Trend

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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